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Friday, July 20, 2007
This Week in Candy - Can you Recall?Food safety (and Easy Bake Oven safety as well) has become a large issue not just in the United States but also in China. There’s a lot of fur flying around between the US and China on the issue, but I thought I’d just address a few things as they pertain to candy. First, there’s White Rabbit, a beloved vanilla taffy with a rice paper wrapper from China. Earlier this week the Philippines declared that they detected formalin (a nasty carcinogen) in the candy (even in the candy made in the Philippines) and ordered it to be removed from the shelves. Then China said that they tested the candy and found no such traces of formalin. (And another test.) Now, it’s entirely possible that the contamination is true and that it’s happening somewhere along the supply chain, perhaps in the warehousing or the repackaging for particular markets. I don’t know what to make of it and if you put one of the candies in front of me, I might eat it. But I sure wouldn’t eat more than one. I’ll keep eye on the story. (Here’s my White Rabbit review ... one of the very early ones from the archives.) There was a food contamination hoax earlier this week. In other news domestically Artisan Confections has recalled some lots of the Scharffen Berger Kumasi Sambriano bar because of possible milk contents that aren’t marked on the wrapper. My feeling on that is if you don’t have a problem with milk, go ahead and eat the bar, but if you are in a household with folks that do, be sure to return it. In a follow up to the Cadbury Salmonenlla contamination in the UK, the chocolate manufacturer was fined 1 million pounds (about two million dollars American) for their negligence in the matter. I’m sure it also cost them a lot in lost sales.
Monday: L’Artisan du Chocolat (7 out of 10) Tuesday: Flamigni Torrone (9 out of 10) Wednesday: Rum Cordials (8 out of 10) Thursday: KitKat Inside Out (5 out of 10) Friday: Charms Blow Pops & Zip-a-Dee (7 out of 10) Weekly Average: 6.375 ... 25% chocolate content. Related Candies
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I really like this feature! Its neat to see some extra candy news and to see the reviews summed up. Thanks!
It’s too bad some candy is forgotten. In the 40’s there was a candy bar named “Welch’ Rum Frappe”. It was chocolate covered rum flavored fudge with raisins. I have searched the internet trying to find it. Do you have ANY information? The rum cordials you mention sound good, but have never seen them.
Kimberly - I’m glad you like it!
Shirley - Welch’s used to make Poms, Sugar Babies, Sugar Daddy and Junior Mints as well as a few different fudge bars including the Welch’s Frappe.
The company was later sold to Nabisco who then sold it to Tootsie.
Though I don’t remember the bar, I think the closest thing you’ll find would be something at a classic candy shop. See’s makes a Rum Nougat that has cherries and a pretty intense rum flavor but in a chewy nougat, not fudge.
Ritter Sport, a German chocolate bar company, makes something called Rum Trauben Nuss or Rum, Raisins and Hazelnuts that has 2% rum in it! Again, not fudge, but the rum-ness is quite good. I’ve seen the Ritter Sport bars at Cost Plus World Market and some upscale grocers in the candy aisles.
The Welch’s Frappe bar was last seen in the 1960’s. I remember the wrapper was a light pinkish-purple and cream color, and the bar itself resembled a Hollywood bar, only much more slender. The icing was white, and the fudge & raisins were the next best thing to heaven. They always cost me a dime in the machines, and none of the stores ever had them in stock. I always had to rely on the vending machine guy. I could get a much larger Hollywood bar or a Zero bar at the store for a nickel, but, even at half the size of the others, and twice the price, the Welch’s Frappe bar was worth it, and is sorely missed.
Thanks, Rick, for letting me know there is at least ONE person out there who can remember the Welchs’ rum Frappe! I had asked so many people who never heard of it, and I think they thought my memory was failing. Shirley
Hi Shirley,
I have been searching for the name of this bar for a long time If we are talking about the same candy bar my recollection of it was a bit different than Rick’s. I remember it as a dark chocolate covering a rum flavored cream filling that had raisens mixed in. I remember it as hard to find and a great treat when you did. I would place it in the 50’s and maybe into the early 60’s. I also remember it as a great loss of a great and unique taste. Are we thinking in the same line of thought?
Bob
My family knew the Welch toffee family, really lovely people. Does anyone know where they are now Sylvia, Wilfred and son Paul.? I would love to make contact after so many years of losing touch. Yvonne
The Welch Frappe Bar was definitely dark chocolate covered heaven. I ate a lot of these in my day. I want to try to recreate this candy bar. Any ideas on how to find the recipe?
Thanks for your input, Art. I wish I knew how to find the recipe, too. Did try once to make some fudge with raisins and rum flavoring, but it didn’t taste right. I agree it was dark chocolate coated. For a time, T thought my memory was failing me. I’ve tried to check internet to see if there’s still a Welchs’ candy factory. But no leads.
Thanks Shirley for your response.
I applaud that you tried to make the filling. Of course the chocolate coating would be easy. The rum-raisin fudge is a definite challenge.
I came across a recipe that I saved but haven’t had time to make. You may want to try it. Go to hugs.org and the recipe is listed in the index as rum-raisin fudge. Maybe this is different from the one you used. I can still remember the taste of this wonderful candy bar. They also made an excellent chocolate fudge bar. If we could only find the original recipes! Art
My mother has been looking for the Frappe. We thought we just couldn’t find it. She is so disappointed that it is not made any longer. She is 85 years old and wants to have just one more taste of this delicious candy bar. I think we should all continue to find out about this candy bar. Surely there is someone who knows the recipe and this bar can be made again.
Cathy of Charleston, SC
I WOULD BUY RUM FRAPPE BARS WHEN I WENT TO SATURDAY NATINEES AT VARIOUS MOVIE THEATRES IN DETROIT IN THE THE 1940S, INCLUDING YHR DEXTER AND RIVIERA.IT WAS A GREAT CANDY BAR WITH A CHOCALATE COATING AND DELICIOUS RUM FLAVORED CREAM FILLING WITH RAISINS. THE BEST CANDY I EVER ATE, I STILL REMEMBER THE TASTE.
I grew up in the Boston area and absolutely loved those Frappe bars, which I remember as costing a nickle (then a dime), being dark colored with raisins, and the most delicious candy bar ever made, bar none! I have been hunting online for the correct name of it for years. This was the early 60s.
I grew up in southern California and bought Welch’s Rum Frappe all the time - the store quit carrying them because they said “It attracted ants”. I’ve never seen them again and OH SO MISS THEM!!!!!
I can still see that gold & red wrapper in the candy section of some of the stores I used to find this delicious candy bar. My father introduced me to this candy and would sometimes bring home a few bars. There was a drugstore on Broadway and 157th St. (Manhattan) that used to stock them because a group of us, adults as well used to buy them out. I wish I could find the recipe or a candy company that could make that candy bar.
My mother would send me to the store when I was a kid in the 60’s and have me get her a Frappe bar or a Fudge bar. I had my share and remember them well—to die for. I also remember when all candy bars were a nickel. The machine in my office just went up to 95 cents.
I continue trying to find more about them, but suppose it’ll just have to remain a memory. One site said Nestles purchased the Welchs’ Candy Co., but when I wrote them, they knew nothing. Did suggest trying a recipe using marshmallows and
melted butterscotch chips, but it’s not the same.
Even if they were still around, they’d probably be much smaller and cost lots more.
My favorite candy bar of all time -Welch’s Frappe
contrary to a comment made above, I don’t recall any white icing on it . It was a choc. bar with rum flavoring and choc with rasins . Does anyone know if it is even available ANYWHERE ?
Glad to hear from so many Welch’s Frappe lovers !
I remember getting welch’s frappe at Howard
Johnson’s the only place I could find it. But I
thought it was a chocolate raspberry bar. Maybe
they made some different types. But it has been
50 years so it might have been rum raisin. But
boy I miss them and would buy a case if I could
find them. Of course I said the same when I find
all chocolate Neccos and I did buy a small box of
24 rolls. I ate 5 rolls, got sick and give the
rest to my grandkids. Live and learn!
I can remember buying Rum Frappes before WWII. I used to get them from the First National Stores.
They were a nickel a piece, three for a dime. My Grandmother gave me a dollar for my birthday and I went right down to buy my favorite treat. I told the groceryman I wanted a whole dollars worth. He told me to come back in a couple of days. Sure enough, I returned and I got three whole boxes of 12 bars apiece. I was in tooth decay heaven. I had gone through I think about five bars when my mother found my store of candy. She took them away, saying something about sugar diabetes, never to be seen again. God, I miss my Rum Frappes.
Bob, do you have diabetes, or did your Mother just think you’d get it if you ate all them?
Wonder what happened to them after she took them.
I don’t remember the bars before WW2. It was just after it was over that I discovered them.But
they were Soooo good!
I am trying to find the original makers of the
Pie Face, Fat Emma and Biscrisp bars sold in the
1960’s. Would like to contact the company’s for information.
I searched “Frappe” candy bar on Goggle, and this is the only result I got. I have been looking and searching for Frappe candy bar for many years. It was a chocolate covered, rum flavored candy bar with raisins. I LOVED these candy bars. It was also my dad’s favorite. They were available in the 50s and most of the 60s in almost any store that sold candy in Massachusetts. I’m glad to learn others remember it!
Pat
I am so glad others remember this wonderful treat. I would indulge every trip to the doctors every month/week when I was pregnant with my first…back in 1972. The only store left in RI that sold them was right near his office. After that I never saw them again. They were great. Cream filling isn’t quite right..a little firmer.
You are right cyndi. It was not a cream filling.
It was more of a fudge type filling, a rum flavored fudge with raisons.
Typo correction raisins not raisons. Sorry
For Christmas this year my daughter tried to make a rum flavored fudge, with raisins, and it was awful. Maybe someone has a better idea? Our fudge recipe is yummy so it should have worked. Perhaps we can locate the graveyard for oldtime candy recipes?
I grew south of Boston in Taunton early 60’s. I used to get the fudge bar for a nickel. I remember it having a dark “fudgy” center covered in chocolate. No one here in Massachusetts seems to remember them now.
i am guessing this is why it isn’t available any longer,no onw remembers them. maybe it is time for an unusual tasting candy bar…like frappe!
The name IS Welchs’ Rum Frappe!
Such serendipity.
Two days ago I had yet another discussion with friends about the Frappe Bar. No one recalled a candy bar by that name. I am the only person in my considerable network of friends that remember this heavenly confection.
As a kid in the mid-1950s, I won a couple of boxes of Frappe Bars at a carnival that was passing through my hometown of Plymouth, MA. I could not believe my good fortune!
No candy bar was even in the same taste universe as the Frappe Bar. And no candy bars today remotely approach its unique favor and texture.
So we have established that this bar was made by the Welch’s company and has not been sold for many, many years.
I am grateful that this site provided me with both proof that Frappe Bars existed and a nostalgic trip down memory lane.
Carleton Kendrick
Now what would be really great would be for someone at what remains of that Welch’s candy company to discover the old secret recipe and bring it back into production. This is one they really don’t need to supersize, either.
From your lips to that candy company’s ears, Winifred.
Carleton
Every nickel I ever got was spent on a Frappe Bar. I can picture the candyman delivering them to the Rexall Drug Store all the time. I was told by him that they couldn’t make them any more because they were using real Rum. I believe that is the reason they stopped making them. Maybe we were all hooked on them not knowing it just like our morning coffee today.
I think that was the time they were selling cough medicine with codeine, and wine biscuits with wine. Time to start selling the rum candy again for the boomers! Just how does one get a candy suggestion into the head of the manufacturers? There must be a company that would think this was a great new idea? I probably wouldn’t be the same…it never is. I still have my Yorks and Skybars.
Nothing really to add other than I miss them too - along with Bartonettes.
I’m yet another baby boomer who has yearned for a Welch’s Frappe bar for years. Like some of you, nobody I know ever heard of them. They all said I was crazy.
I ate hundreds of them in Waltham, MA in the 50s and in Salem and Derry, NH in the 60s. (That’s probably a conservative guess.) I was skinny as a rail and never stayed still. (Now I have diabetes.)
I don’t believe the filling was fudge or cream. I’ve always described it as a medium brown with a pinkish hue, but I’ve never been able to describe the texture.
I’d kill for the recipe! I’d make mine with Splenda.
In reply to query about Welch family, I knew family and son Jimmy up until time of WWII. Our families stayed at a summer resort hotel on Rocky Neck in Gloucester MA. I enjoyed many a free candy bar and was sorry to see line disappear. After the war the family bought a fine home on Gloucester Eastern Shore. I did not attempt to keep up contact. The brother of owner was right-wing activist who was founder (I think) of John Birch Society.
i am looking for the old hollwood candy bar. i ate my way thru hi-school on them. a bag of chips, a carton of chocolate milk, and my purple/gold wrapped hollywood bar. it was so good. i have heard that the snickrs bar is its’ replacement. but really nothing can replace my favorite cany bar. Marie HELP! 11/25/2009
My mom and I was just saying last night how we would die for Frappe Bar I am so Glad we are the only ones that miss these great bars, Your right they last sold in 1960 My Dad Ran a store and sold those bars the same Co made a Fudge bar chocolate coated fudge inside the Frappe bar was a coffee color Light Brown inside with raisins,and Rum flavor, Welch’s sold two kinds of bars at that time one called Fuggie that was clocolate on the oustide and fuge inside then the frappe bar Both was wonderful, I grew up in Voluntown CT and sure miss those bars
Well, I guess this little Frappe bar had a big following to match it’s BIG taste. Too bad we couldn’t keep it alive. I am glad that others remember it too, and I think we are getting closer to describing the filling perfectly. Now who wants to cook up the first trial batch? I offer to test for taste.
I went to a candy store because they said that they had the WALNETTOS in stock. I knew they were still being made but when I bit into the square it was of a differant tast, It was more like a chocolate fudge square with walnuts in it and this was NOT the tast I had remembered back in the 50’s, they were chewy and tasted of carmel or taffee, not chocolate fudge as they are now. When I bought them as a kid they were in a pocket box with about 6-8 rapped pieces. I think they were bought out and the recipe was changed to the modern tasts.I have not been able to find anyone who remembers them the way I do. Is there anyone who would know about this
How about an answer to my question about Walnetto’s candy. Ther must be some old timers who remember how they tasted? Still waiting!
O.K. Chuck I’m the one who started this whole thing (about Rum Frappe). I loved Walnettos, too. Remember 1 time when I was small my Mom won a whole box of them. Don’t remember what for, though. It’s sad so many good things just disappear. I THINK the Vermont Country Store advertises them, but they charge so much I’ve never ordered. So don’t know if they’d be the same. Have found many things I used to like don’t taste as good any more. They probably use cheaper ingredients and more additives. Or maybe our taste buds change.
Dera Shirley, It was great to get a responce to my comments about Walnetto’s. I know that Coke said they were making the soft drink Coke Clasic with the original recipt but they used beet sugar of corn sugar and not cane sugar claiming the tast was the same. NOT! I did wonder if Walnetto’s did the same and claim “It’s the same as always”
When a company gets sold they take a lot of liberties with the trade name. I still remember them as more carmel and less fudge and a clear wax wrapper.I would like to know if this happend and when,but nobody seems to know.I’m afraid if I called the Walnetto company that most of them are too young to know the history.
Thank you again, Chuck Mason
Rum Frappes crossed the ‘pond’.My brother brought some back from Halifax Nova Scotia during the Second World War.He was aboard a new air craft carrier H.M.S.Speaker collected at Halifax.I remember Rum frappes as the most delcious dark chocolate covered bar I had ever tasted.
While watching a commercial for another favorite candy bar of mine, which is still around, I considered that possibly the inside of the Frappe Bar had the same texture and consistency of the York Patty, with that “medium brown with a pinkish hue” that Jeanne described. It is hard to put your finger on what the actual filling was because the memory of the dark chocolate coating, rum, and raisins dominate.
Frappe Bar….I too could not find any of my friends that remember this candy bar. Have been looking for a long time. Thanks for letting me know they are not made anymore. What a shame.
Dark chocolate on the outside…beige center with raisins. I remember buying them at the local penny candy store, though not for a penny but never was a nickle better spent.
I remember Welch’s Frappe very fondly. My grandparents had a grocery store in Massachusetts in the 50’s and early 60’s and it was my favorite candy bar. I remember a gold and red wrapper. I remember the rum nougat on the inside with an occasional raisin. Welch’s also made a Fudge bar in a blue wrapper. I inquired some time ago at the Vermont Country Store but it appears the cause is lost ...
Hi Barry It’s so nice to read all these responses. I remember the Frappe bars as having more of a fudge like filling (with raisins and rum flavor). In fact, have been thinking about trying to make some just to see if it’s similar. Of course, maybe it’s been too many years for me to actually know how they tasted. Just know they were good!
Frappe lovers, I did try the fudge route for the center of this delightful candy bar and it did not work. It was the wrong consistency! Does anyone have any other suggestions? The rum, raisins, and chocolate are the easy parts…the center seems to be the elusive secret. LOL
I ate a FRAPPE everyday while on break in 1950s. Loved them, and have NEVER found them since but always remember that spectacular flavor - almost addictive! Maybe that was their “secret” recipe.
Folks, hope I can help. I am the head confectioner at Cero’s candies in Wichita Kansas. I took it upon myself to come up with something like or similar to Welch’s Rum Frappe. Rum fudge center with raisins in dark chocolate. I have formed these into balls about the size of truffles. These would be the perfect size to order and see if they are similar to what you are seeking. I would appreciate any and all feedback to get it right. These are not on the website as of yet (ceroscandy.com), but you can request them as a special order. Or, you can call the store (316-264-5002)and ask for Justin.
Folks,
As with the Frappe bar, I have replicated the Welch’s fudge bar. Chocolate fudge topped with grape jelly in dark chocolate in bite sized squares. Need you to try it and tell me if it’s right. Will take all compliments and complaints. Any suggestions on size and shapes. Thanks againd, Justin
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